Sunday, 10 August 2014

Quinacridone Maroon PR 206 (Pigment Red 206)

Looking at the heading one might think what is this colour? The old colour was Brown Madder now replaced or replicated by this modern organic pigment. It is now known as Brown Madder, correctly a `hue', from Winsor & Newton, Transparent Red Brown from Daler Rowney, Quinacridone Burnt Scarlet from Daniel Smith and Avignon Orange from Maimeri. Some of these are favourites of several artists, probably many more, and make no mistake this is a great pigment. I have had Avignon Orange for some years but haven't used it much recently. Why I ask myself? Schinke added this pigment at the last upgrade to their range calling it Madder Brown. They recommend it for `portraits and nudes'.

Left: Avignon Orange (Maimeri), Centre: Transparent Red Brown (Daler Rowney), Right: Perylene Maroon (Daler Rowney)

Not much difference between them is there? The Maimeri paint was from an old tube and when I squeezed it out liquid first emerged then pigment. This is separation due to age, so the paintout is a little streaky. I like the Transparent Red Brown but others might prefer the Perylene Maroon which is darker valued.

Added later : I've had a comment which seems to suggest I'm misleading readers as quote ` the two paints (PR206 and PR179) are totally different'. I've now looked at the Winsor & Newton chip chart and certainly the PR179 chip looks much darker than the adjacent Brown Madder PR206. As for Schminke I only have a printed colour chart (printed charts are generally considered much less accurate) but even so the Deep Red (PR179) and Madder Brown (PR206) don't look a million miles apart in colour shade.  You decide as paints from different manufacturers, even with the same pigment, can be very different. It all depends on the additives and the way the pigment is processed. However as you can see the above paints are not so very different and the swatches were freshly painted , although on further study the Perylene Maroon looks redder.

Handprint lists it in the earth colours and describes it as lightfast, semi-transparent, mildly staining, dark valued, and moderately intense. It's main weakness is a slightly weak tinting strength, which means it might be overridden by more dominant colours. Handprint recommend it for botanicals, portraits and landscapes and say it is a versatile neutralizing complement with a wide range of blues and blue-green pigments. The pigment database describes it as  `Dark Orange to Violet Brown'. Bruce McEvoy prefers PR179 Perylene Maroon because of its greater strength.

PR206 isn't listed at all by Graham, Rembrandt, DaVinci, Sennelier or Holbein. Some obviously prefer PR179 Perylene Maroon. It does appear in a few mixed pigments though. Looking at the rare Daler Rowney chip chart I possess  the two pigments are side by side, and while very similar, PR179 does appear slightly darker valued. Permanent Alazarin Crimson from Winsor & Newton has PR206 as one of the two ingredients.

If you decide to try this colour what to buy? As readers of the blog will know I'm pragmatic and combine price and quality in any decision when I buy. All these paints are good. A check today on Jacksons shows Daniel Smith the dearest at £10.92p while Daler Rowney is only £6.80p. No contest as far as I'm concerned but hang on Winsor & Newton is currently £6.87p! Maimeri come in at £8.60p with Schminke at £7.33p. Best buys therefore Daler Rowney and Winsor & Newton. Daniel Smith, however good, worth this hefty price? Not in this instance. As for Perylene Maroon the Rowney price is the same but Winsor & Newton put it in Series 2 at (currently) £8.89p.


Julie Paradise said...

Those are totally different colours! I have both PR 179 and 206 from W&N and Schmincke and either way 206 looks so not like 179.

If I had to choose between them I would go for 179, but if you are in need of a brown anyway then 206 is a good choice per se. It is transparent, a bit duul though, but probably useful for certain things. I have never used it much myself I have to admit. Hmmm.

Peter Ward said...

Thanks for commenting Julie. Totally different colours? I don't see that. I'll let others decide looking at the swatches. I don't have the Schminke or Winsor & Newton PR179 so can't comment on them but people can decide for themselves looking at the swatches above. Even with the same pigments different manufacturers paints often vary. Handprint calls both Top Forty pigments.

Jane Blundell said...

Daniel Smith make a Pr179 and PR 206 that are completely different - one a deep maroon (Perylene Maroon) and the other Quinacridone Burnt Scarlet, which is more like a Brown Madder as pictured. I can email you a swatch of both, and other PR179 and PR206 paints if you like...

Peter Ward said...

Thanks Jane. I have the Daniel Smith `paint it cards' or whatever they are called. Actually I wish I hadn't mentioned PR179 because the post is about PR206 and all this other stuff is a diversion from the main theme. I'll make sure I don't slip up like this in future. (grin).

Jane Blundell said...

Oh but pigment discussion is always interesting :-)

I have a section on my website of painted watercolour swatches. So far I have added W&N Brown Madder PR206, DS Quin Burnt Scarlet and Daler Rowney Transparent Red Brown PR206, along with the almost identical hue DS Garnet Genuine. You can also see the similar Deep Scarlet by DS - slightly more red - made with PR175.

PR179 Perylene maroon by DS is very deep and blood-crimson. The Daler Rowney Perylene Red PR179 is cleaner.

You can see them all here

Peter Ward said...

Thanks jane for interesting comments. I'll certainly have a look at your swatches and I'm sure others will.

António de Lisboa said...

Hi! Sennelier also has PR206 as a single pigment. They call it Permanent Alizarin Crimson Deep (reference number 699). It looks a lot like WN Brown Madder (PR206) but slightly colder. But I found it weaker, dirtier and hard to handle when compared with the WN. I like some Sennelier watercolours, but not this one. Congratulations for your wonderful and very informative blog. Regards

Peter Ward said...

Thank you for commenting Antonio.