tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2891643331061427318.post5987790813726533448..comments2024-03-23T08:53:29.282-07:00Comments on The Watercolour Log: Turquoise PB16 (Pigment Blue 16)Peter Wardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07451951778074071828noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2891643331061427318.post-18617562491532150782015-02-06T08:02:18.796-08:002015-02-06T08:02:18.796-08:00I've only just picked this comment up Sofia. S...I've only just picked this comment up Sofia. Sorry about that.Peter Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07451951778074071828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2891643331061427318.post-51846685054355934992013-03-17T05:38:58.100-07:002013-03-17T05:38:58.100-07:00Thanks for commenting Yvonne. I have a tendency to...Thanks for commenting Yvonne. I have a tendency to experiment(!)which I should resist. I have far too many colours but what the heck...!!!Peter Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07451951778074071828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2891643331061427318.post-75677182764148534932013-03-17T03:51:34.427-07:002013-03-17T03:51:34.427-07:00Its really interesting to read Peter, but I am now...Its really interesting to read Peter, but I am now determined to work with what I have, to become really familiar with all the pigments (so many new ones recently!) and then I will make a considered judgement about the necessity or not of changing any. I do find that consistency is a major criteria for me these days.Yvonne Harryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00138131276780458571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2891643331061427318.post-12181543776374624532013-03-13T10:33:54.989-07:002013-03-13T10:33:54.989-07:00Thanks Linda. I do it because I'm interested a...Thanks Linda. I do it because I'm interested and if this helps others I' delighted. See John's comments as he also tests paints, amongst other things.Peter Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07451951778074071828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2891643331061427318.post-12911445089755506142013-03-13T10:16:23.579-07:002013-03-13T10:16:23.579-07:00I really admire your dedication to the art via the...I really admire your dedication to the art via the careful testing you do of the pigments. You put me to shame Peter.Linda Rothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02833417183469551153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2891643331061427318.post-59159687987720200962013-03-13T07:10:07.270-07:002013-03-13T07:10:07.270-07:00Thanks for comments John (both)! I've had no p...Thanks for comments John (both)! I've had no problems with the Lukas Turquoise, only the Graham Mineral Violet (PV16) and just a little with the Rowney Cobalt Magenta (PV14). Graham said after the first probmen that they had changed their pigment supplier but then the same problem cropped up with the new one so... According to Handprint pigments from different suppliers can vary - even if they are supposedly the same - and then we have the way the manufacturer formulates the colour. I did find with some of the Naples Yellow mixes I tried that some solidified after a while. I put that down to those that contained white. Peter Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07451951778074071828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2891643331061427318.post-82864723331286189582013-03-12T21:46:28.620-07:002013-03-12T21:46:28.620-07:00Peter
Thanks for the inclusion of the Rowney Cobal...Peter<br />Thanks for the inclusion of the Rowney Cobalt Magenta in your PB16 appraisal but, once again it's a pink PV14 - almost identical to the older Rowney Cobalt Violet. <br />Apart from yet another discontinued pigment from Holbein in my "Blues and Violets box", this time a Turquoise Blue (PY3, PG7 and PB17) all my others are PG50. A beautiful Cobalt Turquoise from Schmincke and an Australian Turquoise from Art Spectrum.<br />The hues that manufacturers get from the single pigment PB16 is amazing - almost as many as from PR19. One wonders how they can manage it without additions!John Softlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2891643331061427318.post-51567102129966065752013-03-12T21:19:02.993-07:002013-03-12T21:19:02.993-07:00Peter,
As usual your testing of pigments is a serv...Peter,<br />As usual your testing of pigments is a service we all appreciate and helps s avoid making expensive mistakes (most of us anyway).<br />My foray into Cobalt Violet (PV14)in an attempt to find a hue more to the blue end of the spectrum that the red has gone smoothly until now.<br />I had examples of the rest and my final 2 were M Graham and Lukas which, by all accounts were bluer than the pink versions of others.<br />On checking prices I found that I could obtain Graham marginally cheaper locally than from the UK with a saving on postage as well.<br />The graham PV14 and a Cobalt Green (PG50)and both Cobalts turned out to be beautiful hues with the PV14 bluer than most. The honey content makes them very liquid and difficult to dry out on the palette but I can live with that. <br />With that in mind, the Lukas I obtained locally - without doing a price search and in my haste I paid double the price than if I had gone through a UK supplier.<br />The tubes arrived and when I eventually forced the cap off 1 tube it was so old that the aluminium screw section had corroded. The other 2 (yes I bought multipul tubes)when opened smelt as though something had crawled in the tube and died! The paint had solidified and was more difficult to squeeze from the tube than W&N Permanent Mauve (PV16) which has always had problems in this regard.<br />The initial swatch was of a hue more like Paynes Grey than a violet and all the tubes have been returned to the Lucas Aussie agent for return to Germany and be tested.<br />This is more of an epistle than a remark so I'll leave my Turquoise comments for later.<br />Cheers<br />JohnJohn Softlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2891643331061427318.post-27419626197757228072013-03-12T01:55:25.559-07:002013-03-12T01:55:25.559-07:00Thank you Ray I appreciate your comments.Thank you Ray I appreciate your comments.Peter Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07451951778074071828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2891643331061427318.post-61651592472853209482013-03-11T20:18:43.913-07:002013-03-11T20:18:43.913-07:00Thank heavens you are there to test the paints for...Thank heavens you are there to test the paints for us Peter. I find these posts extremely interesting.Ray Maclachlan Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16542553965601642263noreply@blogger.com